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Jazz ([info]silverknight) wrote,
@ 2008-05-22 13:03:00

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000.200 - Dialogue
You want to talk to me, really talk?

Than come and do it here.


[OOC: continued from here.]



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Private to Light and Jazz
[info]yagami_light
2008-05-22 04:15 pm UTC (link)
Yeah..I suppose a new thread would be best.

Besides, staying on the computer gets my mind off how hungry and nauseated I am.

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Re: Private to Light and Jazz
[info]silverknight
2008-05-22 04:17 pm UTC (link)
Not thinking about a hunger strike, are you? That would be a coward's way out. And messy to clean up as well.

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Re: Private to Light and Jazz
[info]yagami_light
2008-05-22 04:23 pm UTC (link)
It will make me be forced to think quicker. I'll eat if my survival depends on it, but right now, I'm just trying to figure myself out.

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Re: Private to Light and Jazz
[info]silverknight
2008-05-22 04:35 pm UTC (link)
But energon deprivation makes the thoughts go slow.

Your life depends on it, because not many will think of keeping you alive in the case of danger.

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Re: Private to Light and Jazz
[info]yagami_light
2008-05-22 04:39 pm UTC (link)
Maybe I'll go get something to eat in a little while.

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Re: Private to Light and Jazz
[info]silverknight
2008-05-22 04:47 pm UTC (link)
That's better. You wouldn't want to scare your Romeo into hating you more than he already does by looking like a bad copy of the Phantom of the Opera.

On the other hand, maybe someone poisened the food. You'd have to look out for that. So, maybe eating is out of the question.

What do you think of honour?

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Re: Private to Light and Jazz
[info]yagami_light
2008-05-23 01:43 am UTC (link)
I suppose, if I do love him, he would be Christine in that, wouldn't he? Then who would be Raoul?

I always check the food. I haven't trusted it since coming here, so I wouldn't trust it now.

Honor? Now...I think...I believe honor is in the eye of the beholder.

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Re: Private to Light and Jazz
[info]silverknight
2008-05-23 02:03 am UTC (link)
What is it that your L cherishes most? Maybe your adversary is not Raoul but the Persian.

I'd like to know what you believe honour to be.

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Re: Private to Light and Jazz
[info]yagami_light
2008-05-23 02:53 am UTC (link)
Honor is...doing what's right. Serving on the side of true justice.

At least..that's what I believed before...But now..I don't truly know.

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Re: Private to Light and Jazz
[info]silverknight
2008-05-23 12:07 pm UTC (link)
But what is right? Who decides what belongs to true justice?

Who writes the rules?

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Re: Private to Light and Jazz
[info]yagami_light
2008-05-23 04:35 pm UTC (link)
I used to, back in my world..or at least I thought I did.
But, as I said..it's in the eye of the beholder. Everyone has their own idea of honor and justice.
I'm just another observant..as is everyone.

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Re: Private to Light and Jazz
[info]silverknight
2008-05-23 07:13 pm UTC (link)
You're very good at talking around a subject, I'll give you that. But you still haven't told me what it is to you.

What is right and just? What, not how.

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Re: Private to Light and Jazz
[info]yagami_light
2008-05-24 01:36 am UTC (link)
Being able to truthfully say you have not harmed anyone in any lasting way that is bad. That is honor.

So, even those who are disrespectful can be honorable, it's just usually not noticed as much.

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Re: Private to Light and Jazz
[info]silverknight
2008-05-24 01:51 am UTC (link)
Of course, those who act disrespectful can have honour. Honour has nothing to do with how much respect someone shows.

So let's dissect your message here:
--> Being able to truthfully say you have not harmed anyone. Check.
--> Being able to truthfully say you have not harmed anyone in any lasting way. Check as well.
--> Being able to truthfully say you have not harmed anyone that is bad. And here you are starting to contradict yourself.

Don't you pride yourself with the knowledge that Kira wanted to change the world with his deeds? But your own definition of honour is against what you did, so...

Does that mean you have no honour?

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Re: Private to Light and Jazz
[info]yagami_light
2008-05-24 01:53 am UTC (link)
I meant that the 'harm' is bad. Not 'anyone' who is bad.

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Re: Private to Light and Jazz
[info]silverknight
2008-05-24 01:56 am UTC (link)
That still contradicts itself. What harm isn't bad?

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Re: Private to Light and Jazz
[info]yagami_light
2008-05-24 02:09 am UTC (link)
Would you call a parent giving a child a whipping bad, if it's simply for discipline and not for abuse? Would you call fighting back for defense 'bad' harm? What about those trying to protect their families and friends by killing someone who was a physical threat?

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Re: Private to Light and Jazz
[info]silverknight
2008-05-24 02:17 am UTC (link)
Would I call a parent giving a child a whipping bad, if it's done for discipline? Yes, because pain does not teach us anything but how to avoid it. The 'lesson' will not be learned.

Would I call self defence and protecting family and friends 'bad' harm? No, but that does not say anything. You've only given reasons, not differences.

If the reason is good or bad does not matter, the result is still harm. And harm, in which form it may come, is never a good thing. Someone will always pay the prize.

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Re: Private to Light and Jazz
[info]yagami_light
2008-05-24 02:21 am UTC (link)
Maybe that someone who is receiving the harm deserves it. In which we can say it was honorable to hurt them.

If they didn't deserve it, then it's not honorable.

What I did as Kira was honorable, even though I possibly could have gone about it in a different way. What I did to L..was not honorable.

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Re: Private to Light and Jazz
[info]silverknight
2008-05-24 11:56 am UTC (link)
And you decided who deserves what.

But did you not also decide that your beloved nemesis deserved what you gave him?

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Re: Private to Light and Jazz
[info]yagami_light
2008-05-24 06:45 pm UTC (link)
I don't think...Okay, yes, back before it, I had decided he 'deserved' it.

But now I notice it was really just a selfish yearn of mine.

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Re: Private to Light and Jazz
[info]silverknight
2008-05-24 07:37 pm UTC (link)
You are hopelessly lost within your own sense of semantics.

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Re: Private to Light and Jazz
[info]yagami_light
2008-05-24 08:11 pm UTC (link)
Well..I'm currently questioning most everything, so...Yeah..Pretty lost.

Though, I'm starting to sort it all out...I think I'm about ready to come out of my room if I won't immediately be attacked.

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Re: Private to Light and Jazz
[info]silverknight
2008-05-24 08:27 pm UTC (link)
Than let's hope you don't strangle yourself with your own malfunctions.

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Re: Private to Light and Jazz
[info]yagami_light
2008-05-24 08:41 pm UTC (link)
I'll talk to you later..maybe even outside my room if you actually feel like approaching me..but I won't mess with you and see you in the garage.

I'm leaving my room..Believe it or not, you've been a great help. Thank you.

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